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Poster: WORDSdidGLOW Date: Oct 30, 2006 7:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Rock 'N Roll HOF

Today the Rock and Roll Hall oof Fame annonced its 2007 Nominees for induction. The list includes Chic, The Dave Clark Five, Grandmaser Flash and the Furious Five, R.E.M., The Ronettes, Patti Smith, The Stooges, Joe Tex, and Van Halen.
I was just curious- will his deep catalogue of work in many genre's spanning more than 30 years, does anyone think that Jerry Garcia has a shot to make the Hall as a solo artist?

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Poster: Max Chorak Date: Oct 30, 2006 11:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

In all honesty.. no. No hits, no nothing. Just pure, unfiltered music.. that too many people never found out about. But it's alright.. the ones that did are living it up, no? Seems to me like if GD's truckin', touch of grey, and casey jones didn't make it as big as they did, they wouldn't be in there either..

-Max

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Poster: patkelley Date: Oct 31, 2006 6:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

The Dead would have been in without the "hits," without question. After all, even Touch of Grey was only like number 9 for 2 or 3 weeks I think. They got in caused they rocked the house for 25 years at that point. Garcia will never get in solo- he -played 90% cover songs in his solo career.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Oct 31, 2006 11:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

So, by that logic REM gets inclusion because of arguably their most ridiculous song, "Shiny Happy People", while Patti Smith doesn't because her biggest "hit" was a cover of a Bruce Springsteen song? (Why she isn't already in is beyond me) And the Ramones really rocked the top 40 charts.

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Poster: lastcall Date: Oct 31, 2006 2:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

I'm thinkin' REM is concidered because of the IRS releases. Those records are very good. Chronic Town e.p., Murmur and Fables are among my favorites. I think Bruce wrote "Because the Night" for Patti Smith so if I'm right that would'nt be a cover. I could be wrong!! As for grandmaster flash, what is Rock n Roll about that act? Who's next? A Dr.??? or perhaps an Ice??? I can't see but I'm not blind. No offense If your into rap.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Oct 31, 2006 3:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

You're right about Bruce writing it for Patti. I stand corrected. And I wholeheartedly agree about REM - up through the Document album. Having graduated from high school in Atlanta in 1982 and the going to school in NC thru the mid-80s, they were the local, neighborhood band I saw open for everyone (1st time for Bow Wow Wow!; then English Beat) and then make it from headlining small theatres, to bigger and bigger arenas. New Adventures in Hi Fi is a very good and relatively unknown release (featuring Patti Smith on a tune and a great video for the same shot in Prague). And re Grandmaster Flash - The Message is still a great single piece of work, but I don't really know anything else they did (unless they also did White Lines).

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Poster: lastcall Date: Oct 31, 2006 5:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

I finished H.S. in Marietta, Ga. 1981 and saw rem at the 688 on Spring St. a few times and was hooked on their sound for many records to follow. WRAS(UGA) and WREK(Ga.Tech) were and continue to be GREAT radio stations. North Carolina was also(still is) a hotbed for original music. Are you familiar with The Connells?
Peace

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Poster: dyermaker81 Date: Oct 31, 2006 11:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

Jerry was inducted in 1994 no?

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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Oct 31, 2006 11:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

the whole band did but jerry didn't attend,not his cup of tea i guess.

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Oct 31, 2006 11:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

Yeah...The band carried a cardboard cutout of Jerry onstage for the acceptance speech. He was a lot thinner then.



This post was modified by Earl B. Powell on 2006-10-31 19:29:48

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Poster: dyermaker81 Date: Oct 31, 2006 11:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

I know the band was inducted...I just saw something on Wikipedia that said Jerry was inducted then. I guess they meant as part of the band.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Oct 31, 2006 1:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

It might be possible for him to get inducted just by pure ICON status don't you think?

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Poster: Max Chorak Date: Oct 31, 2006 2:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

I always thought the HOF nominational basis was that of popularity -- popularity most commonly being albums sold, or no. of hits., etc..

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Poster: Max Chorak Date: Oct 31, 2006 2:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

Re-reading this thread I completely stand behind what I said.. if they did not create those hits they would be even -more- unknown.. and without the status of being known, why should you be in the Rock N' Roll HOF? Nobody knows about you..

I'm not saying that means the music is bad.. I'm just saying it is under heard.

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Poster: Fishead Date: Nov 1, 2006 12:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

its about air play..you get on the radio you have a good chance at getting in the hall!!!.
plus longevity helps too.....and the dead helped start a music evolution..

back to main ?
jerry is already in ..don't think the hall will induct someone twice ....

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Poster: RiverRat1492 Date: Oct 31, 2006 4:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

I look at it this way, all this available music, (on the Archive or elsewhere) is a "secret" that most people either don't know about or don't care. Call it under heard, or whatever. I've got my own R&R HOF and guess who IS in it.

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Poster: Max Chorak Date: Oct 31, 2006 4:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

Well said RiverRat.. I guess the HOF really is just a label anyways

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Poster: Spaced Date: Oct 31, 2006 2:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

ICON or not, ushers still asked him to stop smoking pot at an REM concert in Oakland in the 80s. The Examiner (Rob somebody) thought it strange too, as if Jerry had a 007 license for that stuff.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Oct 31, 2006 4:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

LOL! Are you serious? Are you sure it was in Oakland? Don't think Jerry had a fondness for the East Bay. I think he only went there when they outgrew every place else to play.

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Poster: high flow Date: Oct 31, 2006 4:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

That's double-oh-420 - License to Burn!

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Poster: Spaced Date: Oct 31, 2006 8:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rock 'N Roll HOF

I read in the paper that Jerry and Bobby were in the crowd at the Saturday REM show (U2 played on Friday) at the Coloseum and were asked to stop. It was an about town column in the evening paper.